202 Super Giubileo
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202 Super Giubileo
Hello folks.
I have an unrestored 202 Super which I've had for a few years now, soon I'm going to have to obtain a dating certificate for it so I can register it here in Scotland. I have no idea when the 202 Supers were made, I'm guessing mid to late 60's?, does anyone know?. The other thing is, I remember reading somewhere that some 202 Supers were actually 175cc?, is this correct?.
Many Thanks,
Alan.
I have an unrestored 202 Super which I've had for a few years now, soon I'm going to have to obtain a dating certificate for it so I can register it here in Scotland. I have no idea when the 202 Supers were made, I'm guessing mid to late 60's?, does anyone know?. The other thing is, I remember reading somewhere that some 202 Supers were actually 175cc?, is this correct?.
Many Thanks,
Alan.
Re: 202 Super Giubileo
Hi Alan,
I am happy to tell you a little more about that. The Gilera 202 Super was the top model of the single cylinder Giubileo range.
The engine construction is mostly equal to the 175cc, but the 202 has an alloy cylinder and a 5mm larger bore then the 175.
At first it was marketed as the 175 Super in Italy, because this was a popular displacement class.
Soon they realised that was pretty foolish so they quickly changed the name to 202 Super .
In foreign markets the model was always marketed as 202 Super for as far as I know.
Production ran from 1964 until 1968. A total amount of 2.425 units were produced:
1964: 651
1965: 1.020
1966: 146 civil and 4 military
1967: 337
1968: 267
Source: the book "Gilera, una storia lombarda" written by Massimo Lucchini Gilera, president of the Registro Storico Gilera and grandson of founder Giuseppe Gilera.
The frame and engine number should be equal, starting with *201- followed by the production number. This way you should be able to deduct the production year of your Gilera 202. The production month can also be found on top of the cylinder. As you can see my 202 is a very early one, dating from april 1964.
I am curious to learn more about your Gilera 202 Super, can you tell us more about your bike or share a picture of your project?
Nozem
I am happy to tell you a little more about that. The Gilera 202 Super was the top model of the single cylinder Giubileo range.
The engine construction is mostly equal to the 175cc, but the 202 has an alloy cylinder and a 5mm larger bore then the 175.
At first it was marketed as the 175 Super in Italy, because this was a popular displacement class.
Soon they realised that was pretty foolish so they quickly changed the name to 202 Super .
In foreign markets the model was always marketed as 202 Super for as far as I know.
Production ran from 1964 until 1968. A total amount of 2.425 units were produced:
1964: 651
1965: 1.020
1966: 146 civil and 4 military
1967: 337
1968: 267
Source: the book "Gilera, una storia lombarda" written by Massimo Lucchini Gilera, president of the Registro Storico Gilera and grandson of founder Giuseppe Gilera.
The frame and engine number should be equal, starting with *201- followed by the production number. This way you should be able to deduct the production year of your Gilera 202. The production month can also be found on top of the cylinder. As you can see my 202 is a very early one, dating from april 1964.
I am curious to learn more about your Gilera 202 Super, can you tell us more about your bike or share a picture of your project?
Nozem
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Re: 202 Super Giubileo
Hi Nozem,
That's a very comprehensive reply, thank you very much.
I bought the bike perhaps 8 or more years ago here in Scotland. It was an actual, "found in a barn" find. It was advertised on a local sale site by a guy who specialised in older furniture and unusual items, not motorcycles. He said he found it on a farm just outside Thurso in the far north. It had two tax or perhaps some sort of legal documents attached in small plastic weatherproof holders, they were in Italian, I used these to obtain the NOVA certification for it. It hasn't been registered in the UK yet.It had no number plate. I cleaned it up a little, changed the oil, fuel and 6V battery in and it started on perhaps the 4th kick, I've ridden it around my garden a bit, everything seems to work. It has alloy flanged rims and is black and white. The handlebars are of the raised type but look original. The silencer is of the later flat ended shape, wrong for the bike. Much of the chrome has deteriorated or peeled off, and the paint is original but not in wonderful shape, however it does clean up remarkably well. I would certainly not restore it, although perhaps others might, I don't feel it's in bad enough shape, and as they say, it's only original once. It's in my garden shed at the moment but somewhere i do have a few photographs, I'll try to find them and post one.
Thurso had a nuclear power plant, which was decommissioned in 1994. When it was built, and during it's life, there were many workers from all over Europe there, I wonder if an Italian worker perhaps left the bike there when he returned home?.
Alan.
That's a very comprehensive reply, thank you very much.
I bought the bike perhaps 8 or more years ago here in Scotland. It was an actual, "found in a barn" find. It was advertised on a local sale site by a guy who specialised in older furniture and unusual items, not motorcycles. He said he found it on a farm just outside Thurso in the far north. It had two tax or perhaps some sort of legal documents attached in small plastic weatherproof holders, they were in Italian, I used these to obtain the NOVA certification for it. It hasn't been registered in the UK yet.It had no number plate. I cleaned it up a little, changed the oil, fuel and 6V battery in and it started on perhaps the 4th kick, I've ridden it around my garden a bit, everything seems to work. It has alloy flanged rims and is black and white. The handlebars are of the raised type but look original. The silencer is of the later flat ended shape, wrong for the bike. Much of the chrome has deteriorated or peeled off, and the paint is original but not in wonderful shape, however it does clean up remarkably well. I would certainly not restore it, although perhaps others might, I don't feel it's in bad enough shape, and as they say, it's only original once. It's in my garden shed at the moment but somewhere i do have a few photographs, I'll try to find them and post one.
Thurso had a nuclear power plant, which was decommissioned in 1994. When it was built, and during it's life, there were many workers from all over Europe there, I wonder if an Italian worker perhaps left the bike there when he returned home?.
Alan.
Re: 202 Super Giubileo
Hi Nozem,
Thanks to your excellent information I have discovered my 202 Super was made in the last model year, 1968, matching engine and frame numbers.
If I can figure out how to post photo's I will do that.
Alan.
Thanks to your excellent information I have discovered my 202 Super was made in the last model year, 1968, matching engine and frame numbers.
If I can figure out how to post photo's I will do that.
Alan.
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Thank you! This post helped me to discover my year as well.
I’m in desperate need of parts. Most importantly right now a gas tank. Can anyone help me?
I’m in desperate need of parts. Most importantly right now a gas tank. Can anyone help me?
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Hi there, I have just joined this forum, and also have a 202 super, 1965. I thought no there is a petrol tank on UK eBay, search 'gilera super' , it's painted red.
Cheers, Jamie
Cheers, Jamie
Re: 202 Super Giubileo
Hi Gilera Folks,
I'm new to this forum,
I have acquired a 1965 202 Super and am fitting it with a Power dynamo system, and have a problem. The general fitting is straight forward but
when it comes to setting the ignition timing the base plate has two marks on it, which one would be the correct one to use?
Any advice would be welcome as I've tried several times to contact the company with no success.
Cheers,
Al.
I'm new to this forum,
I have acquired a 1965 202 Super and am fitting it with a Power dynamo system, and have a problem. The general fitting is straight forward but
when it comes to setting the ignition timing the base plate has two marks on it, which one would be the correct one to use?
Any advice would be welcome as I've tried several times to contact the company with no success.
Cheers,
Al.
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Re: 202 Super Giubileo
Hello everyone, I am trying to restore a 1966 202 Super. It needs rings minimum, or a replacement piston and rings. I have found an oversize piston at King Of Piston, but my stock bore is 65 mm, and the King of Piston is 66.6 mm, which seems to be a large overbore. Has anyone tried going that large? Does anyone know a source for parts. I tried Bob Wright in the UK and he originally said he had pistons, but when I requested one, he did not have one. I really would like to get this going. Thanks so much for all your help. Sean