gilera 125 rally r1 any info?

[alfaade]

hi can any one give any information on this bike.
ive just picked one up in need of some tlc.
mainly forks and brakes in need of repair,but would like some tech info regarding carb settings or anything usefull.

thanks in advance

[gileraXR1]

hi can any one give any information on this bike.
ive just picked one up in need of some tlc.
mainly forks and brakes in need of repair,but would like some tech info regarding carb settings or anything usefull.

thanks in advance

Hi alfaade.
Gilera R1 was produced in 1988.
It's the "sister" of Gilera XR1 (of mine). Components are the same!
If you send me your e-mail, I'll send you some pages of workshop manual with all gear settings.

Have a nice day!

Ciao

Marco

[Joachim]

Hi

i'm not shure, but your bike should also be included in the manuals of the SP01.
You may have a look at

http://digilander.libero.it/nocturnus75/sp01.html

It's in italian and spanish

ciao Joachim

[gileraXR1]

Hi

i'm not shure, but your bike should also be included in the manuals of the SP01.
You may have a look at

http://digilander.libero.it/nocturnus75/sp01.html

It's in italian and spanish

ciao Joachim

Hi Joachim, Hi alfaade.

No, be careful.
Gilera SP01 and RC Top Rally have engine with carter aspiration and a carburetor Dell'Orto VHSA 32 ES.
Gilera XR1 and R1 have engine with cylinder aspiration and a carburetor Dell'Orto PHBH 28 MD.

Ciao!

Marco

[alfaade]

hi guys
thanks for the quick responce.

marco my email adress is adrian.davis2@ntlworld.com any technical info would be great

marco ive looked at the pics of your xr1 restoration.i must say im very impressed,your bike looks mint

joachim,
the label on my frame says - tipo 145 dgm52272 om gilera 125 rally.the engine has' apts'and the carb is a dellorto phbh28

i picked up my bike of ebay for £300 ,she is in a bit of a sorry state having sat under a cover in somebodys garden for nearly 2 years after failing her mot.after haveing a look at her today she starts and runs fine.though the previous owner has painted her in grey primer.i will post some pics if interested.im hopeing to do a bit of a restore project but not as extreme as marco .
im really struggling to find anything about this bike here in the uk.i think they are a bit of a rarety.

regards adrian

[gileraXR1]

hi guys
thanks for the quick responce.

marco my email adress is adrian.davis2@ntlworld.com any technical info would be great

marco ive looked at the pics of your xr1 restoration.i must say im very impressed,your bike looks mint

joachim,
the label on my frame says - tipo 145 dgm52272 om gilera 125 rally.the engine has' apts'and the carb is a dellorto phbh28

i picked up my bike of ebay for £300 ,she is in a bit of a sorry state having sat under a cover in somebodys garden for nearly 2 years after failing her mot.after haveing a look at her today she starts and runs fine.though the previous owner has painted her in grey primer.i will post some pics if interested.im hopeing to do a bit of a restore project but not as extreme as marco .
im really struggling to find anything about this bike here in the uk.i think they are a bit of a rarety.

regards adrian

Hi Adrian.
Very well! Tomorrow I'll send you some documents about your bike......
But..... I've a little doubt....
Frame tipo (type) 145 *****......
Uhm......
But your bike it's a Gilera R1 1988, or a Gilera RC Rally 1986?
Please look at the attached pics and tell me more!
If you want to send me some pics, my e-mail is arch.marcomarga@2arch.it

Gilera R1bis.JPG

GIleraRC125Rally1986.jpg

Ciao

Marco

[Joachim]

No, be careful.

I never said that they are the same.... i only mentioned that the documents i have posted may cover both
But i'm not shure.

ciao Joachim

[gileraXR1]

No, be careful.

I never said that they are the same.... i only mentioned that the documents i have posted may cover both
But i'm not shure.

ciao Joachim

Hi Joachim!

Yes I know! I said this at Adrian....


Ciao

Marco

[alfaade]

hi marco/joachim

yes after looking at the pics its definetley the r1.but it is registerd as a 1987 model?

pics to follow shortly.shes looking a bit sorry but i think there is potential


adrian

[alfaade]

low res pics.

[gileraXR1]

hi marco/joachim

yes after looking at the pics its definetley the r1.but it is registerd as a 1987 model?

pics to follow shortly.shes looking a bit sorry but i think there is potential


adrian

Hi Adrian!
Very well...... it's a R1!
Now I know exactly what I can send you!

Just let me some hours.....

About 1987..... well.... Boh!
It's possible that your bike is part of the first batch manufactured for export..... Boh!

Ciao

Marco

[gileraXR1]

hi marco/joachim

yes after looking at the pics its definetley the r1.but it is registerd as a 1987 model?

pics to follow shortly.shes looking a bit sorry but i think there is potential


adrian

Hi Adrian.....

I've seen better pics that you sent me.......

No, there are some things that doesn't goes right....

- on you frame the written "Gilera 125 Rally" it's because.... I think that your bike have the same frame of a Gilera Rally 125;
- and Rally was produced in 1986 and 1987....
- the frame "145" it's of Gilera Rally ("150" it's for Gilera XR1 in 1988, "158" it's for Gilera CX in 1991....), maybe Rally have the same frame of R1.....;
- the black engine on your frame written Gilera Rally "RC" it's of Gilera R1;
- the cylinder on your engine it's of Gilera ER or RRT or KK.... because of the gray colour and because in this cylinder it's fitted "APTS valve 1" of Gilera ER, RRT, KK, Rally but not.... R1 (APTS 2)!

In short: it seems that you have an engine of a Rally fitted on your R1!

Was a little bit trouble.... but we have solved it!

So, I'll send you engine documents of Gilera Rally 125!

Ciao

Marco

[alfaade]

thanks for that marco.

you can probably notice that the seat badly needs recovering also.
any ideas how i can do this?

regards adrian

[gileraXR1]

thanks for that marco.

you can probably notice that the seat badly needs recovering also.
any ideas how i can do this?

regards adrian

Hi Adrian!
I think that there are some specialized handicraftsman that can to re-dress your saddle
My saddle it's the original 1988 saddle..... I was very lucky!
In Italy, I know this handicraftsman, that I usally meet at Novergro moto expo (near Milan).
If you want to re-dress your saddle (with Gilera brand printed), you can find more information at (Imola, near Bologna):
- Spallini Valeriano
- via del Lavoro, 6
- 40026 Imola (BO) - Italy
- tel. +39 0542 642120
- mob. +39 338 7675510 (after 18,00)

Sorry no e-mail.
If you want I can try to call him and ask about your saddle.

Have a nice day!

Ciao

Marco

[gileraXR1]

Hi Adrian!
No problem!
Here's the data that you requested me:

forks oil quantitity: 340 cm3 each fork
oil type: Ohlins, Castrol, Motul; for this kind of forks (not very specialistics) every good oil it's right.....
fork settings: no settings screw; if you put into the forks a denser oil you'll have an hard reponse at handlebars.

carb settings (Gilera Rally 125):

- fuel N.O.= or > 96 (octane numbers)
- carburetor Dell'Orto PHBH 28MD
- diameter 28 mm
- maximum jet 155
- minimum jet 48
- starter jet 65
- conical pin X41/2nd position
- sprayer 262 DM
- throttle valve 40

Maximum power 26 HP (19,1 kW) at 9500 rpm!

float height level: weight 9,5 g, but on workshop manual there is not height level data
mixture screw turns: 1,5 turns
tickover rpm: 1500 +/- 100
spark plug gap: 0,6/0,7 mm

You are welcome!

Ciao

Marco