geert pardon wrote:Strange, my fuses are on the right side (if you stand behind the bike) near the cdi box and not on the side of the battery.
Hi Geert. You are a proud owner of a CX???
Congratulations
Joachim
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geert pardon wrote:Strange, my fuses are on the right side (if you stand behind the bike) near the cdi box and not on the side of the battery.
hi there, you are right but once i made the wiring i pulled to inside of the black box where the battery is, its more protectedgeert pardon wrote:Strange, my fuses are on the right side (if you stand behind the bike) near the cdi box and not on the side of the battery.
Gileragreetings....geert
Thanks Joachim, unfortunately i cant clean my doubt.Joachim wrote:I just had a look at the ignition switch of my GFR.
Seems that Luigi has changed a lot on this
The plug at the end of the cable has 5 wires and an extra one.
I found another switch which i don't know where it's from. But it must be a Gilera one.
I think it is out of the spare parts box which cam with one of my GFRs.
The plug has only 3 wires and an extra one. So this one could b more like that you are lookin for.
But the switch itself has solder pads no contacts for cable shoes like yours.
Sorry, that's all i can find out
Pics of the 4 wires switch and plug.
Joachim wrote:Hi
as is *know* that my 3 ignition switches (look all thesame) are from Gilera, it might be that yours are not
Gottfried is not a good source at the moment.
He did not answer on 2 emails. And somebody else asked me if i did know why he did not answer on his mails.
So don't expect to much at the moment.
But our fomous Forum admin Bjoern has a CX
Maybe he is reading this.
good luck, Joachim
Ciao Joachim,Joachim wrote:If everything is working and you still have no spark,
maybe someone is switching your spark to ground.
The kill-switch or the ignition switch do things like this
Also a broken wire which touches the frame.
The ignition system of those little Gilera is a CDI system. Both parts, the main electric and the ignition are working (nearly) separated.
From the charging coil under the side cover of the engine there is a blue wire (yes i know) routed to the HT coil. The coil has two plugs, one small and one wider.
Last one is the one with the blue wire (or whatever the colour is at yours) from the charging coil.
At this wire there is a y-piece. One wire wents to the HTcoil the other to the front of the bike.
This is the wire where the ignition switch, the kill switch and also the rev counter (suppode you have the electric one) are connected.
If you plug of this connector right by the coil you have separated the ignition circuit from the rest of the electric.
If you have troubble shortcutting the ignition energy, now you should have a spark
Then you know where to search.
Have you checked everything for propper ground connection?
Paint jobs, specially powder coating and fixing parts with anodised Aluminium bolts sometimes cause funny problems
You may put an Ohm meter between the mountin point on the HT coil and the ground pole at your batterie. You should read something like zero.
Same at the mountig point under your side cover of the engine where all the coils are located.
There are green wires at the charging coil and also at the pick up coil.
Measure to batterie ground.
In the workshop maual there are some datas to the electric (HT coil, charging coil and pick-up)
Measure and compare.
Good luck
ciao joachim
i new suggestion was presented to me from a spanish friend. i was trying to connect the engine WITHOUT the clocks and oil level connected in to the electrical system.Joachim wrote:hmm... the way you connect electrical wires did not look very reliable
I will send you pictures of an original Gilera ignition to compare.
I think we should start from the scratch
ciao joachim
BTW again. Those two black boxes are the controllers of the electrical APTS system. They have nothing to do with the ignition. Put them somewhere else and don't care about them before your ignition fires up