Help on a KK 125

deana · Post by **deana** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:09 am

Hi everyone,

I have come here from the Gilera Owners Club of UK looking for some help with my Gilera KK. I bought it as a project bike late last year and he was in a really sorry state of disrepair. He still looks bad cosmetically, but at last he has been tested and taxed and he is rideable. The problem I am currently having is with the carburettor.

The major problem that I am having though is that the few articles I have and the only owners manual I could find are in Itialian. What I really need is a workshop manual, or service manual, or owners manual in either English or German. Does anyone know where I could find one? Cost is really not relevant, as having one would make my enjoyment of the KK so much more complete.

Gilgilera · Post by **Gilgilera** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:12 am

Hi Deana,...so here you are,...and welcome to the board,....... come on guys who´s going to be a gentleman and help a lady ?

G.V

hahne · Post by **hahne** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:41 am

Hi Deana, if you need some parts, I have a lot of it, plastics too, a lot new!
All ( or the most ) parts at my page. Bye Gottfried

deana · Post by **deana** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:47 am

Hia Gottfried, I have seen your site, although I hadn't realised that you had spares for the KK, and am hoping to be able to come visit at some stage. Once the KK is ready to show, I will start to look around for my next 125 (I have already agreed on an MXR for later this year). Do you have any manuals for the KK or MXR in English or German?

hahne · Post by **hahne** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:53 pm

Sorry, my time is very small, but I try what`s possible!!!! Bye Gottfried
..... MXR ... I have a new fairing in glasfibre!

hahne · Post by **hahne** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:05 pm

KK.... I have instruction book, Italian language, you can have it for 20€, to make copys, you will have money back by return! Sorry, but so by this ways; I have a minus of 20 pigs!

... only costs of shipment to you! ... do you need some other parts too? Bye Gottfried

Post by **Joachim** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:39 pm

deana wrote:I bought it as a project bike late last year and he was in a really sorry state of disrepair.

*he* ??? a male motorcycle???

On the workshop manual request.. as far as I know Bob Wright has a lot of Gilera papers. Maybe it's worth to give him a chance.

good luck, Joachim

deana · Post by **deana** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:44 pm

Hia Joachim, yup, Gary's a guy!

My Honda CA125 (Rebel) is called Rebecca, and is a girl, but 'Gary the Gilera' (male) was named by my friend, as was 'Hades the Honda' (also male), my Honda CBR600F

And in case you're wondering, my car is called Crystal

As for the publications, I did try Bob which is where I bought my Italian copy of the Owners Manual. Trouble is, I can't read it

Post by **gileramad** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:03 pm

If you need parts for the MXR - I have stripped one for the motor. The rest of the parts is still taking space in my garage

Most of the fairing is in bad condition but the rest should be ok.

deana · Post by **deana** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:14 pm

Cool

(that you have stripped an MXR)

Thanks for the very kind offer Gileramad. Unfortunately I wont be getting my MXR until the KK is fully restored, so it may be the project for next winter. I have already had one earmarked for me and although I have been told that she is 'a project', I don't actually know how bad she is yet. That means that I am not looking for specific parts at the moment, although I am looking for owners handbooks and workshop or repair manuals. If you have those I would be interested, and no doubt I will have thousands of questions for you when I renovate my own MXR

Post by **gileramad** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:04 am

Opps - actually it was a MX-1. But I think many parts are the same.
Sorry no manual for the MX but the engines of the 125cc gileras are much the same and if you have any questions just ask here. There´s always someone who had the same problem.

deana · Post by **deana** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:30 am

Thank you, I will be doing that. I have to strip Gary down in a few months time because there is a load of surface rust on the frame and all the panels need to be repainted. I've never done a strip down before, and I've spent so much already I can't really afford to pay a garage anymore to do it for me.

Gary is back home tonight, and although the problem with the carb is sorted out, I still have a fuel leak, although it only occurs when the engine is running. Will have to wait til the weekend and see if I can do something about it in daylight

deana · Post by **deana** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:36 am

Copied from the UK Gilera Forum

OK, so Gary is back on the road, again A potential site of the fuel leak, we put a jubilee clip on a cloth covered pipe running from the bottom of the fuel tank, and it now seems that this pipe goes from the lower fuel tank (about 8 litres), to the upper one (about 5.5 litres). Anyways, I dropped the bike off for what should have been 30 minutes or so, and although I wanted to wait, the mechanic suggested it would be better if they called me when he was ready. I said that I needed Gary to go out that afternoon, and they assured me that that wouldn't be a problem at all. Needless to say, I didn't hear from them for another 6 hours I had to take the bus into town, and as I was passing the bike workshop they rang to say he was ready I went back to collect him on my way home from town, and they explained that 'the atomiser' had been broken (within the carb) and that it had probably been broken for years, or a bad repair done, as parts of the atomiser were missing but they weren't in the carb They had put the atomiser back the best they could, although I might need a new one or a new carb in the future

So I asked about the leak, and was very firmly told that there was no sign of a leak. I asked about the choke which they said was stuck, but when they checked, it wasn't stuck. I went out for a ride that evening, but now the tick over was too high Still don't know how to access the carb, so I went back to the workshop, and they said that everything was now fine, and that the problem was I was riding Gary like I would a 4 stroke

We agreed that as there was plenty of oil in the auto mixer, I would fill Gary up with fuel and see how he went over the next 500 miles. So off I went to the garage (across the road) to refuel. As I was putting petrol into the tank, petrol was gushing out all over my feet The garage owner wanted me off the forecourt, and I just wanted to be anywhere but on his forecourt

I wheeled Gary back across the road, and showed them that as far as I was concerned, the growing pool of petrol under the bike suggested to me that there WAS A LEAK afterall!! Turns out that the seal on the fuel pumps had perished A quick replacement, and I was on my way, and although I had another minor leak that night, it hasn't happened since, but I will still need to watch out for it and at some stage do some serious testing before I can relax. Anyways, here are a few piccie of Gary now. Still needs loads of cosmetic work, but hopefully the main mechanical bits have been done (they didn't come out on the UK forum but I hope that they will here)

Post by **gileramad** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:58 pm

Nice story...

Do they really force you to put those "L"-signs on your bike?
I always thought only we germans have to carry baking plates as license plates...

thorkill the tall · Post by **thorkill the tall** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:38 pm

gileramad wrote:Nice story...

Do they really force you to put those "L"-signs on your bike?

You'd better believe it!
What's more, if she ever got pulled by a real jobsworth copper, he could do her for an 'improperely displayed' front 'L' plate.......

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